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Jun. 3rd, 2005 @ 01:48 pm (no subject)
I don't even want to calculate how (much more) in dept I would be...

http://www.700-club.org/indulgence_purchase.html

Hmmm... I could kill how many people for the price of one gay marriage?
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From:innergayman
Date:June 3rd, 2005 08:53 pm (UTC)
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That's gotta be a joke, right?!
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From:adameros
Date:June 3rd, 2005 09:02 pm (UTC)
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Given that the credit card payment is disabled, and religious TV shows like The 700 Club are all about the cash, I would guess that it is a joke.
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From:notsuchapatriot
Date:June 3rd, 2005 10:35 pm (UTC)
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to, 'indulge' by phone (via the handy 1-800 number on the page) sends you to a 700 club prayer partner. The site has to be fake, who in there right mind would think that it would be ok to make an unsecure web page for credit card information... Especialy when the 700 club's web site is entirely secure. Has to be bogus, but, I have to admit I was damn pissed when I saw that shit.
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From:evilbaron
Date:June 7th, 2005 11:26 pm (UTC)
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it's definitely bogus, the real url is not 700-club.org but cbn.com (google = <3). It's got enough of a shred of truth to be believable though. Those fuckers on "christian" tv give the rest of us a bad name.

The catholic church hasn't sold indulgences for at least 400 years (if not a touch longer) though it is how they financed Vatican city and most of the cathedrals in europe. the more you know! :)
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From:notsuchapatriot
Date:June 8th, 2005 04:51 am (UTC)
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Yay! Yet another who knows of the dirty past of the Catholic Church... Not to say that the Church itself is bad, but most people just don't know these things.

And you never know, I used to live about half a mile from one of the largest churches in the country and they would ask you to donate by any means necissary, to include credit card! They would actualy pass a credit card swiper down the seats for people to tithe with!

Now, this is just bad stewardship and should be setting off all kinds of bells and whistles and flashing red lights, but people actualy go into debt to pay this mega-church and help the pastor pay off his mansion and his fancy sport cars and european sedans. So, for a protestant church or organization to try to bring back the indulgences? I wouldn't be suprised, especialy with the extreemist movement I've been seeing in many protestant churches lately.
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From:evilbaron
Date:June 9th, 2005 05:57 pm (UTC)
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if you ever want to read a good book about the history of the church, both good and bad (and how it actually helped the cause of freedom), try "The Story of Liberty" by Charles Coffin. It was written in the 1800's AFAIK. Very interesting read, lots of bad, some good. Interesting to see how the midieval church helped to sway the course of history, at least in the western world.

mega churches, and people who take advantage of their flock (fleecing?) really piss me off. Frankly i'm one of those people that thinks if you're going to go to a church, you might as well find one with less than a couple hundred people, as it's more beneficial to you and the community as a whole.

Credit cards in churches make me physically ill. I think i'd hurl in the offering plate.
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From:notsuchapatriot
Date:June 10th, 2005 02:39 am (UTC)
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I'll have to check that book out, sounds like it would be an interesting read.

Personaly, I agree, smaller churches have more of a feeling of community that large churches just cant provide and with that comes more personalized mentoring which can greatly aid in spiritual growth.

Dude, if you puked in that offering plate you'd totaly be my hero.
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From:moonthink
Date:June 3rd, 2005 11:58 pm (UTC)
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dept?

you mean debt, right?

though I suppose it could be the debt dept.